Partner:
John Young ( -1755)
Partner:
(unknown)
Children:
Name:
John Young
Sex:
Male
Father:
-
Mother:
-
Note:
Identifying Robert Parry Young's father is challenging. A "Robert Perry Young" was baptised at Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire, on 31 Oct 1746, his parents being named as John & Jane Young. And a Mary Young was baptised at Gosport on 24 Jan 1730, parents John & Mary Young. Robert’s sister Mary married Admiral John Brisbane in 1759.
A John Young married Mary Houghton at Gosport on 9 Jan 1730. A Mary Young was buried at Gosport on 23 Aug 1731, and then there's a marriage between John Young and Jane Hutchins at Alverstoke on 19 Feb 1735, and a Jane Young was buried at Gosport on 12 May 1784. It is by no means certain that these events relate to the same people, but all of the events would fit the case in terms of dates and place.
According to the Naval Biographical Dictionary, 1849, Robert Benjamin Young's grandfather (i.e. Robert Parry Young’s father) “died as First-Lieutenant of the CUMBERLAND 66, bearing the broad pendant of Commodore Pocock in the East Indies in 1755, on the very day of his promotion to the rank of Captain”. Frustratingly, however, the source does not name the person involved.
Was this officer John Young? According to the Three Decks website a John Young was first lieutenant of the Eagle 60 from January 1753 until 28 March 1754. In January 1754 George Pocock became captain of the Eagle, and he also remained with her until 28 March. Pocock then transferred to the Cumberland and she sailed for the East Indies in May 1754. It is very likely that Pocock took his first lieutenant from the Eagle, John Young, into the Cumberland, and therefore it is most likely this John Young who died on the day of his promotion to captain.
Furthermore, this John Young had served as a lieutenant aboard the Prince George in 1744/5 under a Captain William Parry. It was not unusual in those times to add the name of a ‘patron’ or godfather when christening a child. Here is the link to John Young on the Three Decks website: https://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_crewman&id=14122.
I am extremely grateful to Richard Hiscocks and his excellent More than Nelson website for helping in the unravelling of this mystery: https://morethannelson.com/
Death:
1755
East Indies
Name:
Mary Young
Sex:
Female
Spouse:
Birth:
1730
Gosport, Hampshire
Death:
1817 (age 86-87)
Brighton, Sussex
Burial:
7 May 1817
All Saints, Southampton, Hampshire
Birth:
Parents: John & Mary Young
Name:
Robert Parry Young
Sex:
Male
Spouse (1):
Jane Redfern (c. 1739- )
Spouse (2):
Elizabeth Middleton (c. 1770- )
Children:
Jane Young (1772- )
Richard Young (1772- )
Robert Benjamin Young (1773-1846)
Margaret Maria Young ( -1780)
Jane Susanna Young (1775- )
John James Young (1777-1796)
Note 1:
The Robert Parry Young with whom Jane Redfern 'eloped' in 1772 (a marriage at Jurby!) was in charge of the Plymouth division of the third fleet which transported convicts to Australia in 1791.
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/famhist/families/redfern.htm
Convict Revolt on the Albemarle (1791)
Berrow's Worcester Journal. Thursday, July 14, 1791
FONCHAL BAY, MADEIRA.
Extract of a Letter from Lieut. Robert Parry Young, Agent to Transports, dated on board the Albemarle Transport, April 25, 1791.
"On the 9th inst. the convicts rose upon us, with intention to massacre the Officers and Soldiers, and then take the vessel to America. Fortunately, however, they were repulsed and driven to take refuge in the hold, and in their prison room. Some of them were wounded. In the search after the ringleaders, we admitted one of them King's evidence, and he confessed the circumstances of the whole design. After they were subdued, it was unanimously agreed by the officers, myself, and the crew, that it was expedient to hang up the two ringleaders at the yardarm, which was accordingly put in execution. I imagine this punishment will deter them from any future attempt, since they have continued still, and apparently reconciled to their fate. There were no ships in sight at the time they rose. One of the ringleaders was an American. Two of the crew who were accomplices in the insurrection I have set on shore here, not considering it safe to proceed with such treacherous villains on board the ship. We are one and all armed day and night, and keep the most vigilant look-out over the convicts; six of whom have died since our departure from England. - Tomorrow we sail for St.Jago, the place of general rendezvous; there we shall stay a few days, and then then take our departure for South Wales."
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dutillieul/ZOtherPapers/Index/Favourites.html
See also:
An Account of the English Colony in New South Wales, by David Collins, London, 1798
in Project Gutenberg eBooks: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/12565
Note 2:
Will of Robert Parry Young, a Lieutenant in the Royal Navy, on board HMS Vigilant in Portsmouth Harbour, 22 Dec 1797
To my wife Jane Young of Castletown in the Isle of Man £200, she to keep all household furniture, good or plate in her possession at the time of my decease over and above the pension she shall be entitled to as the widow of a Commissioned Officer; £300 to my daughter Jane Young of Douglas in the Isle of Man; £300 to my beloved and esteemed friend Elizabeth Middleton (alias Elizabeth Young) of the Parish of Aldgate in the City of London who shall be entitled to keep all household furniture, good or plate in her possession at the time of my decease in consideration for her very great care and attention to me for many years and hazarding herself on a voyage to New South Wales with me, my aforesaid wife Jane Young being the whole of the time labouring under a disordered mind from whom I could not receive any assistance; £100 to Elizabeth Boyles of the Parish of March Wood near Southampton my late servant; remainder to son Robert Benjamin Young now a Lieutenant in the Royal Navy.
No exec, no witnesses
On 4 Apr 1799, appeared personally William Marsh of Norfolk Street Strand in the County of Middlesex Esquire and Thomas Smith of the same place Gentleman and made oath that they were well acquainted with Robert Parry Young late a Lieutenant on board His Majesty's Ship Vigilant in Portsmouth Harbour deceased and with his manner and character of handwriting and subscription and they depose that they believe it to be all the proper handwriting and subscribing of the said Robert Parry Young deceased. Sworn before a Parson.
Admon with the will attached was granted 6 Apr 1799 to Robert Benjamin Young the natural and lawful son and residuary legatee.
Birth:
1746
Gosport, Hampshire
Baptism:
29 Oct 1746 (age 0)
Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire
Will:
22 Dec 1797 (age 50-51)
Date of will
Occupation (1):
Resident Agent for Transports, Southampton
Occupation (2):
1798 (age 51-52)
Commander, HMS Vigilant
Death:
1798 (age 51-52)
Portsmouth, Hampshire
Burial:
9 Mar 1798
Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire
Probate:
6 Apr 1799
Probate
Birth:
Parents: John & Jane Young
Name:
James Young
Sex:
Male
Occupation:
Lieutenant-Colonel of Marines
Identifying Robert Parry Young's father is challenging. A "Robert Perry Young" was baptised at Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire, on 31 Oct 1746, his parents being named as John & Jane Young. And a Mary Young was baptised at Gosport on 24 Jan 1730, parents John & Mary Young. Robert’s sister Mary married Admiral John Brisbane in 1759.
A John Young married Mary Houghton at Gosport on 9 Jan 1730. A Mary Young was buried at Gosport on 23 Aug 1731, and then there's a marriage between John Young and Jane Hutchins at Alverstoke on 19 Feb 1735, and a Jane Young was buried at Gosport on 12 May 1784. It is by no means certain that these events relate to the same people, but all of the events would fit the case in terms of dates and place.
According to the Naval Biographical Dictionary, 1849, Robert Benjamin Young's grandfather (i.e. Robert Parry Young’s father) “died as First-Lieutenant of the CUMBERLAND 66, bearing the broad pendant of Commodore Pocock in the East Indies in 1755, on the very day of his promotion to the rank of Captain”. Frustratingly, however, the source does not name the person involved.
Was this officer John Young? According to the Three Decks website a John Young was first lieutenant of the Eagle 60 from January 1753 until 28 March 1754. In January 1754 George Pocock became captain of the Eagle, and he also remained with her until 28 March. Pocock then transferred to the Cumberland and she sailed for the East Indies in May 1754. It is very likely that Pocock took his first lieutenant from the Eagle, John Young, into the Cumberland, and therefore it is most likely this John Young who died on the day of his promotion to captain.
Furthermore, this John Young had served as a lieutenant aboard the Prince George in 1744/5 under a Captain William Parry. It was not unusual in those times to add the name of a ‘patron’ or godfather when christening a child. Here is the link to John Young on the Three Decks website: https://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_crewman&id=14122.
I am extremely grateful to Richard Hiscocks and his excellent More than Nelson website for helping in the unravelling of this mystery: https://morethannelson.com/
The Robert Parry Young with whom Jane Redfern 'eloped' in 1772 (a marriage at Jurby!) was in charge of the Plymouth division of the third fleet which transported convicts to Australia in 1791.
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/famhist/families/redfern.htm
Convict Revolt on the Albemarle (1791)
Berrow's Worcester Journal. Thursday, July 14, 1791
FONCHAL BAY, MADEIRA.
Extract of a Letter from Lieut. Robert Parry Young, Agent to Transports, dated on board the Albemarle Transport, April 25, 1791.
"On the 9th inst. the convicts rose upon us, with intention to massacre the Officers and Soldiers, and then take the vessel to America. Fortunately, however, they were repulsed and driven to take refuge in the hold, and in their prison room. Some of them were wounded. In the search after the ringleaders, we admitted one of them King's evidence, and he confessed the circumstances of the whole design. After they were subdued, it was unanimously agreed by the officers, myself, and the crew, that it was expedient to hang up the two ringleaders at the yardarm, which was accordingly put in execution. I imagine this punishment will deter them from any future attempt, since they have continued still, and apparently reconciled to their fate. There were no ships in sight at the time they rose. One of the ringleaders was an American. Two of the crew who were accomplices in the insurrection I have set on shore here, not considering it safe to proceed with such treacherous villains on board the ship. We are one and all armed day and night, and keep the most vigilant look-out over the convicts; six of whom have died since our departure from England. - Tomorrow we sail for St.Jago, the place of general rendezvous; there we shall stay a few days, and then then take our departure for South Wales."
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dutillieul/ZOtherPapers/Index/Favourites.html
See also:
An Account of the English Colony in New South Wales, by David Collins, London, 1798
in Project Gutenberg eBooks: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/12565
Will of Robert Parry Young, a Lieutenant in the Royal Navy, on board HMS Vigilant in Portsmouth Harbour, 22 Dec 1797
To my wife Jane Young of Castletown in the Isle of Man £200, she to keep all household furniture, good or plate in her possession at the time of my decease over and above the pension she shall be entitled to as the widow of a Commissioned Officer; £300 to my daughter Jane Young of Douglas in the Isle of Man; £300 to my beloved and esteemed friend Elizabeth Middleton (alias Elizabeth Young) of the Parish of Aldgate in the City of London who shall be entitled to keep all household furniture, good or plate in her possession at the time of my decease in consideration for her very great care and attention to me for many years and hazarding herself on a voyage to New South Wales with me, my aforesaid wife Jane Young being the whole of the time labouring under a disordered mind from whom I could not receive any assistance; £100 to Elizabeth Boyles of the Parish of March Wood near Southampton my late servant; remainder to son Robert Benjamin Young now a Lieutenant in the Royal Navy.
No exec, no witnesses
On 4 Apr 1799, appeared personally William Marsh of Norfolk Street Strand in the County of Middlesex Esquire and Thomas Smith of the same place Gentleman and made oath that they were well acquainted with Robert Parry Young late a Lieutenant on board His Majesty's Ship Vigilant in Portsmouth Harbour deceased and with his manner and character of handwriting and subscription and they depose that they believe it to be all the proper handwriting and subscribing of the said Robert Parry Young deceased. Sworn before a Parson.
Admon with the will attached was granted 6 Apr 1799 to Robert Benjamin Young the natural and lawful son and residuary legatee.